{"id":3484,"date":"2023-12-11T12:22:24","date_gmt":"2023-12-11T17:22:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radfordfreepress.com\/?p=3484"},"modified":"2023-12-11T12:22:24","modified_gmt":"2023-12-11T17:22:24","slug":"the-vollrath-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radfordfreepress.com\/?p=3484","title":{"rendered":"The Vollrath Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I am about to begin reading Dietrich Vollrath\u2019s \u201cFully Grown \u2014 Why a Stagnant Economy Is a Sign of Success\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before I embark I thought I would collect a few of my own observations to provide a framework for thinking about his thesis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The big issues are those talked about by Baumol.&nbsp; For some reason I cannot avoid looking at current discussions about the slower rate of productivity growth without thinking of Baumol.&nbsp; We have moved from increasing productivity in agriculture through to doing the same in manufacturing and become used to the growth that such a journey can provide.&nbsp; We have used our machines to augment and then replace our own effort.&nbsp; The consequence has been monumental.&nbsp; We live within immense prosperity.&nbsp; The bounty of applying machinery has produced far more than we ever imagined possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not only this, but the constant fear of an ever growing surplus of unemployed people has never arrived.&nbsp; The journey wasn\u2019t simple or without stress.&nbsp; But it was worth it.&nbsp; And the true naysayers have all been wrong.&nbsp; We are better off. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As we think about what comes next we must also recall that this is all very recent history.&nbsp; Our rush into modern prosperity only began back in the late 1880s.&nbsp; DeLong and others would argue that it is only since 1870 that we have truly been on this path.&nbsp; In that context much of what we take as solid or traditional is actually only ephemeral and shallow rooted.&nbsp; Growth as we think of it today is an artifact of very recent modernity.&nbsp; We ought not take it as something permanent or lasting.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That, in turn, ought give us pause.&nbsp; Modern society and our current social arrangements might be more transient than we would wish.&nbsp; Our re-shaping of traditions is still underway.&nbsp; The journey is incomplete.&nbsp; What does stagnation imply for the rest of the journery?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That this modern cornucopia has come without costs is, of course, nonsense.&nbsp; Our environment is paying a heavy price.&nbsp; There might be limits to what we can do.&nbsp; Our issue is that we are addicted to prosperity.&nbsp; Advocates of slowing down are unable to explain how we de-escalate our progress without sacrificing the political progress that came along with that prosperity.&nbsp; After all, without greater prosperity the perspective that history provides is that we would plunge back into authoritarian living.&nbsp; Democratic freedom and expression are the products of abundance.&nbsp; Rich people don\u2019t like sharing.&nbsp; Elites protect their position.&nbsp; There was a reason early economists assumed wages for the majority would tend towards subsistence.&nbsp; If we slow growth the tension that prosperity has reduced will return.&nbsp; Power will matter even more than usual.&nbsp; And the elite will prevail.&nbsp; Subsistence, but at a higher level, would also return as the norm for most.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This journey has taken us through two economics sectors.&nbsp; It has dumped us in the third.&nbsp; That is Baumol territory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We know how to feed ourselves in abundance.&nbsp; We know how to mass produce the artifacts we enjoy.&nbsp; What about service?&nbsp; How do we provide services within a productivity driven framework?&nbsp; By definition we prize \u201cservice\u201d as an unproductive activity.&nbsp; We cherish the one-on-one provision of those activities we cluster under the name of services.&nbsp; After all \u201cpersonal service\u201d is something we aspire to experience.&nbsp; How do we mass produce the personal experience in the same manner wemass produce food and physical things?&nbsp; Isn\u2019t there a basic contradiction in the very idea?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, as we become a much more service oriented economy, Baumol suggests we should expect slowing productivity gains and thus growth.&nbsp; A stagnant economy might just be the triumphant end point for our journey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perhaps artificial intelligence can help.&nbsp; But who gets to decide that?&nbsp; And are we capable of measuring its impact?&nbsp; Most of our measures of growth were developed in the heyday of mass production.&nbsp; They were intensely industrial in their origins and influence.&nbsp; Are they appropriate for the digital age?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The same can be said for our economic institutions.&nbsp; Our major business firms are all constructed along lines fit for an industrial age.&nbsp; They have not been re-invented for a digital age.&nbsp; One look at the so-called controversy created by work-at-home during the pandemic illustrates the gap between what is taken as \u201cproper\u201d organization and what is possible under a digital regime.&nbsp; The organization of work, indeed even the definition of work, needs to be re-evaluated.&nbsp; We have an abundance of buildings that housed industrial era activity.&nbsp; Do we really need them for digital activity?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This leads us to an even larger discussion.&nbsp; Society itself has been re-built to accommodate industry.&nbsp; Wasn\u2019t that the entire issue that gave rise to economics and its variants in the 1800s?&nbsp; &nbsp; Whither society as the machines came to dominate activity?&nbsp; The degradation of life in those early periods of change produced provocative counterpoints as different as Marx and Polanyi.&nbsp; Where are our modern equivalents?&nbsp; Social reconstruction brought with it the political changes I noted above.&nbsp; Will democracy as we know it, child that it is of the industrial era, survive into the digital era?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A digital world is one of free-flowing information.&nbsp; Physical boundaries are irrelevant in such a context.&nbsp; Yet our boundaries appear important to us.&nbsp; How do we reconcile this?&nbsp; Globalization of production was to the benefit of the owners of the capital necessary in mass production.&nbsp; So we are currently re-evaluating its worth in light of the effects it had within our boundaries.&nbsp; We appear to be hesitant about further globalization.&nbsp; Yet a digital economy must surely be global.&nbsp; Information and digital experience seem impossible to prevent from flooding across borders.&nbsp; So is it simply economic institutions that need too be revamped for the future.&nbsp; Perhaps our political institutions do also.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This raises another important point: who gets to decide? &nbsp; Do we really want to leave the reconstruction of society in the hands of those who own the machines?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Which returns me to stagnation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unless we find a way to maintain growth in wealth by reinventing our services, we appear doomed to slower growth and thus political tension.&nbsp; In particular the perennial argument over the distribution of wealth will re-appear as the most potent driver of politics.&nbsp; The owners of machines are not to be trusted in such an argument.&nbsp; Perhaps that\u2019s why they are racing to get ahead of our out-of-date political systems in the discussion over how power will be apportioned in future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And we have already had a taste of what the rich actually feel about sharing power: the entire neoliberal reaction to the New Deal here in America tells you all you need to know.&nbsp; They hate sharing.&nbsp; They thus hate democracy and the redistribution it implies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oh, and where will economics fit in such a discussion?&nbsp; After all modern economics has been purged of history and power precisely to sanitize it and make it useful in defense of the status quo as determined by the powerful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, I suppose, that\u2019s what I will be looking for in Vollrath\u2019s book.&nbsp; How do we square democracy with stagnation?&nbsp; Where will power reside?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">____________________________________<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Addendum:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have seen some people define some areas of the service economy as being \u201clow value\u201d.&nbsp; This is an indicator of our problem.&nbsp; They are \u201clow value\u201d in the context of our attempt to increase productivity in mass production or agriculture.&nbsp; They are \u201clow value\u201d only in the sense that we cannot place a value on such a subjective phenomenon as the experience of watching a Shakespeare play.&nbsp; We can only value it in our current methodologies in terms of measurable things like prices of entry, wages to actors, costs of production etc.&nbsp; But is that a Shakespeare play\u2019s true \u201cvalue\u201d?&nbsp; This is a perennial question.&nbsp; Measurability determines valuation.&nbsp; The digital era elevates the immeasurable.&nbsp; What does that mean for \u201cvalue\u201d?&nbsp; For the economy?&nbsp; For resource allocation?&nbsp; For economics itself? &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have a clue already in one of my favorite topics: total factor productivity.&nbsp; That\u2019s the black box that allows us to reconcile the traditional inputs to growth with the observed outcomes.&nbsp; Information matters such more than economics takes into account.&nbsp; Information that is, not in terms of messaging, but in terms of design and technique.&nbsp; Information is in the way in which we get things done as well as in the way we talk about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Given a proper answer to this conundrum and perhaps we will not stagnate in a broader sense of \u201cvalue\u201d but only in the narrower sense of what we can measure.\u00a0 It\u2019s a computational and definitional problem.  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